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		<title>By: michael leis - StartTags.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael leis - StartTags.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 21:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doctor as a backup / prescriber when I can&#039;t get into see (or am waiting for my) neurologist. ...What Defines a Community Manager?6 Michael Leis June 10, 2009 at 7:56 am. I think you&#039;re on to something with the concept ... [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Community Is A Management Approach, Not Just a Role</title>
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		<dc:creator>Community Is A Management Approach, Not Just a Role</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This came up in an early discussion with David Alston which resulted in a bit of exploration about what defines a community manager. Jim has taken the stance that &#8216;everyone is a community manager&#8217; which has led to some [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What Are the Characteristics of a Great Community Manager &#171; Social Media Musings by Tom Humbarger</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Are the Characteristics of a Great Community Manager &#171; Social Media Musings by Tom Humbarger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: 8 idées pour bien démarrer la semaine &#124; Manager une communauté</title>
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		<dc:creator>8 idées pour bien démarrer la semaine &#124; Manager une communauté</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 03:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a problem that we run into on a constant basis. I know it&#039;s not a failure on our part of pointing out how valuable an experienced community manager is to have, but for various reasons, they just don&#039;t do it. I think in large part it&#039;s due to the differing views of what a community manager actually is, and does. I&#039;ve dealt with customers who would call their eCommerce manager their &quot;community manager&quot; when in fact he/she really had no experience in community, and had no desire to learn. But since they had good sales numbers, or had previously earned the company a lot of dough on the &#039;net, management just assumed they could take the CM role and.. roll with it. The way I see it, the CM is there to ensure that the community is the best it can be. To keep new users coming in, to keep the existing users happy, and to deliver some kind of tangible ROI back to the company. I know that&#039;s a very simple answer, and obviously the specifics would vary based on the type of community (support vs enterprise vs entertainment vs etc), but the basics of building a flourishing online community really are the same across all platforms.

I also think a good community manager needs to be a good moderator. I have seen so many communities where the CM rarely, if ever, gets involved in the day-to-day discussions. You would think this should go without saying, and to most seasoned CMs it does, but to companies with little experience in the online world, it often doesn&#039;t. You can learn a lot just from reading user feedback, but unless they have a visible person to contact with issues, a lot will go unmentioned and unresolved. That&#039;s why I always favor promoting community moderators up to the community manager role. That type of real experience immersed in the community is what really helps make an awesome community manager. You can learn the business stuff, but there is no replacement for actually being in touch with your users and their needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a problem that we run into on a constant basis. I know it&#8217;s not a failure on our part of pointing out how valuable an experienced community manager is to have, but for various reasons, they just don&#8217;t do it. I think in large part it&#8217;s due to the differing views of what a community manager actually is, and does. I&#8217;ve dealt with customers who would call their eCommerce manager their &#8220;community manager&#8221; when in fact he/she really had no experience in community, and had no desire to learn. But since they had good sales numbers, or had previously earned the company a lot of dough on the &#8216;net, management just assumed they could take the CM role and.. roll with it. The way I see it, the CM is there to ensure that the community is the best it can be. To keep new users coming in, to keep the existing users happy, and to deliver some kind of tangible ROI back to the company. I know that&#8217;s a very simple answer, and obviously the specifics would vary based on the type of community (support vs enterprise vs entertainment vs etc), but the basics of building a flourishing online community really are the same across all platforms.</p>
<p>I also think a good community manager needs to be a good moderator. I have seen so many communities where the CM rarely, if ever, gets involved in the day-to-day discussions. You would think this should go without saying, and to most seasoned CMs it does, but to companies with little experience in the online world, it often doesn&#8217;t. You can learn a lot just from reading user feedback, but unless they have a visible person to contact with issues, a lot will go unmentioned and unresolved. That&#8217;s why I always favor promoting community moderators up to the community manager role. That type of real experience immersed in the community is what really helps make an awesome community manager. You can learn the business stuff, but there is no replacement for actually being in touch with your users and their needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 21:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thread has inspired me to respond with a blog post: 
http://www.alertrank.com/mrgooglealerts/2009/06/11/tracking-mentions-of-your-name-with-google-alerts-is-not-enough/

The basic idea is that you have to look outward to join a conversation and bring people into your community. Too much attention is paid to monitoring mentions of your own brand, when you should be joining people in the larger community outside your brand. A community isn&#039;t something you manage, it is a wide range of people you reach out to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread has inspired me to respond with a blog post:<br />
<a href="http://www.alertrank.com/mrgooglealerts/2009/06/11/tracking-mentions-of-your-name-with-google-alerts-is-not-enough/" rel="nofollow">http://www.alertrank.com/mrgooglealerts/2009/06/11/tracking-mentions-of-your-name-with-google-alerts-is-not-enough/</a></p>
<p>The basic idea is that you have to look outward to join a conversation and bring people into your community. Too much attention is paid to monitoring mentions of your own brand, when you should be joining people in the larger community outside your brand. A community isn&#8217;t something you manage, it is a wide range of people you reach out to.</p>
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		<title>By: rhappe</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhappe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - thanks for the great description - thank you!

My biggest question is... can a companies entire market be considered  
a community and therefore, the VP of Marketing or the VP of Support  
*is* the community manager... in bigger organizations I think not...  
in smaller ones yes. Also thinking about when companies move from a  
company with a community to a community-based company... then where  
do the roles fall. Not too many companies in that camp yet but a few  
are emerging - IBM &amp; SAP on the large end and many smaller one in the SMB area.

Roger, Stuart, Lawrence - thanks for stopping by and adding your perspective. Stewardship is a great word for it but also one of those things that you know when you see it but difficult to put universal description of what that means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; thanks for the great description &#8211; thank you!</p>
<p>My biggest question is&#8230; can a companies entire market be considered<br />
a community and therefore, the VP of Marketing or the VP of Support<br />
*is* the community manager&#8230; in bigger organizations I think not&#8230;<br />
in smaller ones yes. Also thinking about when companies move from a<br />
company with a community to a community-based company&#8230; then where<br />
do the roles fall. Not too many companies in that camp yet but a few<br />
are emerging &#8211; IBM &#038; SAP on the large end and many smaller one in the SMB area.</p>
<p>Roger, Stuart, Lawrence &#8211; thanks for stopping by and adding your perspective. Stewardship is a great word for it but also one of those things that you know when you see it but difficult to put universal description of what that means.</p>
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		<title>By: bookmark from diigo 06/10/2009 : Relation, transformation, partage</title>
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		<dc:creator>bookmark from diigo 06/10/2009 : Relation, transformation, partage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Liu (Telligent)</title>
		<link>http://community-roundtable.com/2009/06/what-defines-a-community-manager/comment-page-1/#comment-72</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Liu (Telligent)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This FAQ keeps popping up! My simplest answer: Stewardship. More details at my recent blog entry: http://bit.ly/18PXNo

http://twitter.com/lliu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This FAQ keeps popping up! My simplest answer: Stewardship. More details at my recent blog entry: <a href="http://bit.ly/18PXNo" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/18PXNo</a></p>
<p><a href="http://twitter.com/lliu" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/lliu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Foster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Foster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 15:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hand of God reference may be the best thing I have read all day. Great stuff Rachel :).</description>
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